My discussions with Todd were a long similar lines, sports springs and shocks made my next/now AWD Magna understeer more. I have an FWD Audi A3 hatch comparable understeer - or Magna understeering more Audi A3 good car to drive. For comparo, Current stock HSV VF Senator S1 NA, understeer with gentle oversteer. None had as muck very gentle oversteer like my stock TL AWD with 20 mm K Mac rear bar. So I ordered Todd's 22mm rear bar....


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